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despairing gone tunnel. now admits one hundred three inmates are involved in a hunger strike that's past the one hundred day mark the promises to shut down a tourist jail still on kat. the a.p. news agency discovers its journalists have been under surveillance for months u.s. government secretly monitoring the calls. deadly car blast rocks damascus while across the border in turkey people vent their anger at the government's support for the syrian rebels meanwhile the u.n. and russia agree on an international peace conference to tackle the deadly conflict . also this week a spy scandal rusher exposes the cia's chief in moscow to u.s.
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intelligence is caught red handed trying to recruit a russian agent. you're watching artie's a weekly news review i'm a kerry johnston. more than one hundred days and counting on hunger strike at the notorious gone town of a bay prison is showing no signs of ending prison officials admitted to r.t. one hundred three prisoners are now refusing food but lawyers for the inmates say the number may be as high as one hundred thirty many are being force fed through the nose and extremely painful procedure the detainees are seeking an end to the indefinite detention without charge meanwhile the u.s. president has repeatedly promised to close the facility so far no action has been taken and a chicken has more. after years of being that shit injustice and indifference and
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after more than three months of starvation one tunnel detainees have finally got the president's attention i'm going to go back after this they've heard these words before as president i will close guantanamo reject the military commissions act and if you go to the geneva conventions and now we're dead it needs to be closed now congress and again as many times before the white house if it were sponsibility to congress there's much he can do administrative leave without congress without having a legislative act even under current restrictions the administration has the power to use national security waivers to release many of these men which it hasn't used it's the charge that well the fear that if you release some of these prisoners that have been accused of being terrorist in the past and and they do something else or you find them going into terrorist
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organizations you will pay a heavy political price for that so many of these men have fallen victim not just to their wrongful capture but also to u.s. politicians assumptions of what they may or may not do in the future but you can or you can of all people and maybe you know this is a we're not future police here so far the administration's only response to the crisis of one problem or has been to force feeding troops down detainees nostrils the fact of the matter is that when an individual makes a decision of sound mind makes the decision to refuse food as a political protest then as we said in our joint statement it is not open to mistake in their second chance to force them to do each. and the force feeding here involves the insertion of a tube of some significant dynamic diameter through the nasal passages and into the stomach in the most horrible of circumstances the un special rapporteur on human rights also told me that he was encouraged to hear the president. once again
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express commitment to close the infamous prison president of united states has kuantan a moser problem and yet on the ground for some reason the camp administration continues to treat these men and humanely and to deny them basic dignity for years the administration is in gauged in verbal and legal acrobatics to justify its inaction on guantanamo and still not clear how long before people there start dying but one thing is clear the elephant in the room just got too big to ignore in washington. where u.s. is running up quite a bill just to keep the their taurus prison open each of the one hundred sixty six detainees are housed on time and cost american taxpayers nine hundred thousand dollars a year and that compares to just twenty five thousand dollars spent on each inmate in a typical u.s. federal prison the costs of housing prisoners at guantanamo could rise
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controversial force feeding procedures prison spokesman navy captain robert around told ati's bill don't abuse claims are exaggerated. when a detainee leave the camp they get a what we call a full frisk which is a pat down search not unlike you'd experience going through airport security if you are selected for secondary screening in the united states it's quick it's full clothing on and it's noninvasive it's not the detainees job to tell the truth the lawyers just repeat what the detainees say that all of those allegations are false and let me ask you about the allegations about the on the safe and inhumane force feeding all those prisoners who are on hunger strike do you deny that the policy of the united states and its to reserve life for lawful means we currently have a hundred hunger strikers today we have currently thirty who are doing and terribly said that's using a liquid nutrition supplement most of them when they're ordered to do that go
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compliantly and take it a percentage about a third need to be taken to their cheating it's a procedure that's done hospitals and nursing homes every day it's not done to harass them but it's done to sustain life to sustain life but we've been hearing from the medical justice network to a saying that don't deserve accused of colluding in torture that at the camp and that's been agreed on by the world medical association and the un the us and we disagree with them it's a matter of national policy our courts of up held that. sustaining life you lawful means lawful we have a medical protocol where we evaluate detainees based on their weight loss and co-morbidity we allow them to hunger strike that if they get below eighty five percent of body weight some damage could be down we will do the involuntary feeding all of those allegations are false they're not they're not being subject to extreme temperatures they're not being denied food and water the conditions are as good as
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they can possibly be they had satellite television and they had communal living that all kinds of good things were transparent. what your producers or walker. or united nations considers the practice of force feeding to be both torture and a breach of international law marty spoke to a former detainee who spent nearly three years at guantanamo he told us that the hunger strike is no surprise given the prisoners harrowing experiences you have to remember that these people have gone through these people gone through a whole series of different types of prisons from being in a in a prison massacre and killer junkie for being in kandahar background with people tortured to death to guantanamo is camp x. ray where they were in chicken wire friend tenses to camp delta to now comes five six and seven so it has changed it's been a progression the and the steady and rapid. eating away the erosion of their personal psyche has taken its toll so if at the end of this process now they put
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them into a decent prison with some decent living standards it doesn't take away from the fact of the past eleven years the tortured and everything else becomes peripheral after that they then it's a strange situation where torture is peripheral where force feeding is peripheral where the fact that you've not had meaningful communication with your family is peripheral the fact that you're sexually abused and when you're searched every time your lawyer comes and nothing can be more exaggerated than hearing that your child who you've never seen in your life is now going to be eleven years old that's not exaggerated that's the truth that nobody wants to face up to and we can keep up to date turned with all the latest updates from the ongoing hunger strike on our web site r.t. dot com we have the full timeline of events complete with statements from prison officials lawyers for the inmates expert opinion and much more that's all just a click away.
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today. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. giant corporations rule the day. this week also saw the discovery of a major u.s. spying operation against the associated press news agency around a hundred journalists had tapped for months in the revelation was immediately branded an unprecedented intrusion into freedom of the press. has been following the scandal. it's being called an unprecedented government intrusion the justice department secretly collected two months of telephone records from the associated press and its reporters. a.p. believes this story prompted the secret investigation the cia uncovered
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a plot to bomb a u.s. bound airliner a plot originated in yemen and was carried out by al qaeda they arabian peninsula by reporting this al qaeda was put on notice that the cia had an inside look at their activities be a piece says the justice department did not say why they needed the information but says among the nearly two dozen telephone records collected at least five of them were from reporters working on the story in question this was a very serious. a very serious leak and a very very serious leak. i've been a prosecutor since nine hundred seventy six and i have to say that this is among if not the most serious it is within the top two or three most serious leaks that have ever see it put the american people at risk and that is not hyperbole eric holder announced today that he was recusing himself from this a.p. investigation the prominent news agency condemned the government's actions in
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a letter to holder yesterday associated press c.e.o. gary pruitt says quote these records potentially reveal communications with confidential sources across all of the news gathering activities undertaken by the a.p. during a two month period provide a road map to news gathering operations and disclose information about a.p.'s activities and operations that the government has no conceivable right to know now the a.p. is asking for an explanation as to why the government pulled reporters' phone records without notifying them the worry now is the effect the news will have on the media and its sources i think the effect on the media has already been felt i mean you have. sources that are being shut down doors just being shut in people's faces now that was probably the intention the intention was to scare. the turn off the faucet in other words from leaks in the wake of the controversy white house press secretary jay carney reiterated the obama administration's
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dedication to transparency he believes strongly in the need for the press to be unfettered in its pursuit of investigative journalism he also believes strongly as a citizen and as president in the need to ensure that classified information is not leaked because it can endanger our national security interests there's a balance between transparency and national security has been a delicate one since nine eleven the obama administration has a history of aggressively going after whistleblowers prosecuting more people for leaking classified information than any other administration combined and washington r.t. . the us government to defend itself by saying that the case against a.p. was for the good of national security when the director of big brother watch says that simply doesn't make sense the interesting thing about this case is that you were actually talking to the government asking them about publishing this story to
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hold off publishing it until the sensitive operation was over and the government itself was planning to announce the story the next day so the idea that somehow this information was never going to come into the public domain i think is wrong for news organizations to do their job they need the confidence to tell whistleblowers they're on a liberty will be protected because the social part of reporting things in the public interest. maybe journalists when the only ones who are apparently targeted by authorities and prominent bahraini activists as she's been a surveillance target in the country you've got kingdoms of thought is apparently used by software k. to track. that story later in the program. the cia crosses the line russian intelligence is furious after catching an american spy trying to recruit a russian agent one just a few minutes. syria's state television has reported that
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a powerful car bomb has rocked the capital damascus resulting in at least three deaths five people have also been injured for an explosion which happened there a screw another device has been diffused in the same area they want to claim responsibility for the attack meanwhile russia's efforts for a peaceful resolution to the syrian conflict receive the backing of the united nations earlier in the week u.n. secretary general ban ki moon stressed that an international conference valving the syrian government and opposition should be held as soon as possible you know pushing off has been following developments in sochi. well after a meeting with russia's leadership the un secretary-general ban ki moon agreed that the conflict in syria could only be resolved in accordance with international law without any foreign military intervention and with the full respect of syria's territorial integrity he also agreed to the idea of putting together this joint conference which would include both the syrian rebels and the authorities now they were also able to establish the list of current stumbling blocks concerning the
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sadia and well first of all currently the opposition is still quite divided it's unclear who will be able to represent it as a whole at such a conference secondly moscow wants to see all the regional players taking part in such a conference including iran which may cause problems with washington and also if the syrian authorities are ready to take part in such a conference right now. than the rebels are making now are voicing preconditions which include president assad having to step down but in general ban ki moon's visit continues this diplomatic marathon which will have been witnessing for the past few weeks a lot of officials have been coming to russia discussing syria including u.s. secretary of state the prime ministers of great britain and israel and in general it seems the approach of many nations two ways of resolving the conflict in the country is changing now however there are still many problems including the one with the washington since when john kerry was in moscow it seemed that they were
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completely on the scene ph with russia's leadership but as soon as he left he started calling again for president assad to step down and promised more support of the rebels and that was back just recently by president barack obama himself what's widely being ignored is the fact that many of these rebels admit that they are receiving directions from international terror organizations including al qaida there are tons of videos in the web showing horrific acts conducted by rebels including public executions of captured syrian soldiers there is this just troubling and horrific video of a rebel cutting the horde out of a dead syrian soldiers chest and eating it on camera calling on everybody else to do the same and promising to continue doing so in the future and also there is the statistic from various international activist groups which basically shows that
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every time the rebels receive weapons from abroad the violence just spikes. well several hundred protesters were met with tear gas in the streets of the turkish town bordering syria which was rocked by two deadly blasts last week and the street is expressed anger at prime minister policies of supporting the syrian rebels which they say threatens turkish security tens of thousands of refugees poured into the country that's made the border between the states extremely volatile promotional reports turkey shares its longest border with syria it's hard to imagine now but in two thousand and nine the two countries even held joint military drills across that frontier in what was a brief thaw in relations between the two while commonly syrian and serbian turkish they are so close but it's really only the border that prevents them being a single city people here joke they could have dinner here in syria and coffee in
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turkey just by strolling through the gates you can see behind me but it's now closed and the relations between the two neighbors are strained like never before changes came up to turkey joined the chorus of fellow you need to states and called for assad to step down immediately diplomatic political logistical support for the syrian opposition has made two key one of syria's key foes there are numerous unconfirmed reports of weapons and ammunition smuggled into syria with help of people on the side of the border either through airports or on land. often. in the absence of any convincing denial from the government given the government's policy of saying. what position when you look at the whole picture sure it's not. inspiring pictures damascus has even accused anchor of allowing the rebels to bring chemical weapons into
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country from this turkish religion at the syrian border you can see tech is military base it's a well secured area with highly restricted access no civilians including journalists are allowed to enter the army also uses special access roads to get in and out that are also closed for no other military vehicles well if even if accusations of turkish involvement in supplying weapons to fighters in syria true it would be almost impossible to prove by supporting the opposition in syria turkey may pledged its loyalty to nato but this has come at a price hundreds of thousands of desperate and green refugees are fleeing from the war zone making the security situation on the border as tense as ever we spend more than eight hundred million dollars for the syrian refugees so it's a huge number now they want jobs in in those cities so it is also somehow affecting
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the social stability in this region some say turkey is being used as a proxy by the western and gulf countries hostage to power that's forced to pull the chestnut's out of the fire but there are those who approve of enterprise actions and think turkey should take advantage of that situation if the syrian regime it will be changing and i think it has lost its legitimacy and it has lost its political credibility with its own people that the syrian people will not blame turkey or having chosen the. in the period where they were suffering turkey feels that this region this close region. central asia and middle east is a priority region so we should be the. power which has influence in all the regions secular in these were the two recent reports by
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amnesty international and international crisis group global independent movements the documents reflect the concern by western and gulf partners over what they call turkey's near ottoman imperial aspirations what these countries certainly don't want is their loyal ally who paid a high price for being a good team player starting to play for itself. r.t. turkish syrian border. well you find a lot more news stories on our website including iran says it has already has the capacity to build several nuclear bombs but its religious leader says the country will never develop nuclear weapons or details online. also the few today rough landing of the moscow airport when the plane's landing gear collapses likely all people on board were left without a scratch at all to dot com for the full story. rush criticize u.s. intelligence this week for crossing
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a red line in its operations of the cia agent was uncovered in moscow trying to recruit a russian agent in the wake of the arrest russian intelligence made public the identity of a cia chief in moscow and then the question of investigate. ryan fogle was caught in the act trying to recruit a russian special services agent to work for the americans now russia's federal security service has released a photo technical equipment and some other items that were found when he was detained including a compress a map of moscow a large amount of cash and even two weeks to allegedly use as disguises now this is suspected cia agent was offering one million dollars a year for passing on classified information and that was revealed to you know why a taped telephone conversation between full girl and the security agent he was trying to recruit made public by russia's federal security service you're going.
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to give us more. talk of the war than you know what goes through the book you're scared of more than just about what the word of a million little old you and yes. i do is. full has been handed over to the american authorities and now faces deportation the f.s.b. told r.t. that was not the first case and recent years since two thousand and eleven there have been in fact four other similar cases one case involved and other american embassy employee who was trying to recruit a russian employee of national and committee the ass's b. says that there is a striking resemblance to the focal scase and that the cia has gone too far with this spying operations. we were particularly outraged at the actions of the american spy dillon benjamin he tried to convince an employee of the russian national counterterrorism u.-t. to hand over classified documents of this department to the cia. he was also
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deported from russia we hoped the cia would learn their lesson and something like that would never happen again so we decided not to release the information about dylan to the public but apparently they didn't learn that lesson in fogel's case crossed a red line so we had to react according to official instructions. and as average with a juicy spy story at hand the exposure of a cia spy in moscow got the media animated it was a mixture flat for and this believed that their alleged spies quite clumsy recruiting techniques but that's quite a common reaction to the stories like this but still it doesn't make them a new last her last three member of the previous scandals for instance back in two thousand and six of russian t.v. showed a documentary exposing several british and my six agents working in moscow and here is the high concept they used rocks at that time the media laughed at what was
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considered a conspiracy theory until a high ranking adviser to the prime minister admitted it's true so rog's weeks compresses and maps james bond doesn't exactly have much competition right now all russian intelligence says it's actually won the cia two years ago but if they continue their efforts to recruit russian agents it would take actions from the antiwar answer coalition closely following the spy scandal as the u.s. is running up to operational russian. the russian government is calling attention to the fact that the us is doing something of a full court press on russia a shadow war so to speak they have the using the n.g.o.s and the penetration of russian society by us soft power through the n.g.o.s at one level trying to carry out many many intelligence operations to get russians to defect penetrating russian
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society i think also you watch the u.s. media very favorable coverage to the russian opposition any protest that takes place in russia even if it's small gets enormous front page coverage while here protest movements in the united states get almost no coverage you see the general scenario being played out of hostility to the russian government even if there is still a magic overture is at another level the bahraini government is accused of using surveillance software from a u.k. based company to spy on a leading rights activist that's according to documents filed the high court in london by one of the founders of the rights group bahrain watch not a fracture so the program is designed for use in cruel investigations and privacy activists claim the technologies being widely abused the program named fin spy can perform a wide range of surveillance operations work spying victim your computer and then recording your skype conversations and social media activity can also take
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screenshots without your knowledge and access information and no hard disk. who filed the court documents told r.t. that digital surveillance has been spreading in bahrain since a high ranking police officer john yates became security advisor there. the e-mails were disguised as if they were from journalists and were from other activists and then after we discovered after two months investigation of a technical analysis to try and. investigate what kind of information what this software actually does we discovered there was a company called gamma international which sells this software to foreign government so we assume and we given the circumstances in which i received the e-mails and the nature of the e-mails suspect this was sold to the bahraini government but we also know that the servers. received this information from the
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software is actually based in bahrain so the servers are currently in bahrain and they're being updated in bahrain which means that this is further evidence over the past two years particularly british advisor john yates joined the bahrain security services we have noticed the increase in the use of surveillance in the use of c.c.t.v. and the use of digital surveillance and there are very targeted arrests and in for infiltration amongst protests activists that are happening using the latest technology technologies and this is all happened since following on from the hiring and the recruitment of john yates and most of these companies that provide all of this technology are british now we know of at least six so be maintained worldwide so now the this is a global operation international has sold this software to at least twenty five governments and the us seems the use of this software seems to have no any type of restriction so this is turning into
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a global phenomenon and it's run by the private sector so well look increasingly of the commercialisation of digital surveillance which is even scarier because it's very difficult to regulate. well just to add fuel the ill effects of austerity greeks struggle to get health care at the soaring costs of medicine for costs predicts a slow recovery for the economy in twenty fourteen. wealthy british style roads and that's not on the president right in front. of the. markets why not scandals. find out what's really happening to the global economy in cars a report on. some
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of these traditional chili lines they've been bred and developed and passed down from generation to. this is a total struction of the culture of mexico by telling them i mean this this is not going to impact us well into mexico whatever happens here about the whole world now we're eating at about six in the in the micro in the eighty's in all boarding of slower. engineer carbs why do you think this country is full of obese and sick people because we have a crappy food system. is
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he used to. eat. welcome back now the volatile digital currency bitcoin received a blow this week after u.s. authorities seized the accounts of a major trade up the move hinders the process of exchanging bit coins into dollars which right now are worth around one hundred twenty dollars per unit so why is the u.s. government so worried about the currency well let's see how it works where users must first download a virtual wallet onto a computer or a mobile device they can then transfer bit coins to the wallet of another user for
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a small charge and without banking mediators or distance they resemble the pay pal system but a key difference is anonymity all transactions are encrypted and untraceable and it's this feature that swimming alarm bells creating a space where arms and drugs can be bought for example alongside more innocent goods and it isn't putting off some big name investors and this week alone a bit coin related start up on five million dollars in backing economics professor richard wolfe says mistrust of monopolized banking systems is driving people towards the bitcoin. i think the fear is that conventional methods of finance are so corrupted and so all looked upon with a negative mentality that masses of people are inventing ways and there are dozens of them to get around to evade to a lawyer some of them are of course criminal to avoid those research but the
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majority of people involved are really expressing a sense of economics out of control of an economic system that isn't working that is making the inequality unbearable and everyone is looking for something that will allow them to escape the rules as they are greece's international lenders claim the country's recession that's been dragging on for six years could end next year forecast say the recovery will be slow and holds little hope for the unemployed see what the greek economy looks like now for years since this economy went into freefall g.d.p. the output of the heavily indebted nation has plummeted almost fifty billion euro since two thousand and nine while government debt has surged by forty five percent of its reliance on the rescue loans unemployment has reached a record at twenty seven percent and the new report says it will remain above twenty percent for another three years and the health care sector is one of the
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worst hit by the recession in greece as artie's tom barton has been finding out. busy at the counter but pharmacists in greece these days are facing serious shortages of medicine and they're worried. critical could discern. the where the wrong what's going to be the. next day price controls and tight cash flows mean many drug companies won't supply them greasers health industry is denied profits and patients their medicines so for example if you came into the pharmacy with high blood pressure many doctors like to prescribe this medication but dealy sisters and have enough of it so he has to give this instead and this it to ation is replicated with hundreds of medicines in hundreds of pharmacies across the country. but the charity doctors of the world in thessaloniki patients are in an even more desperate situation. that's for him and i'm really afraid about the future because i have two small children no insurance and i just
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lost my job to manage the squad as you know. i came here because i don't have insurance and the money to pay for my parents some force to come and the situation will only get worse us. i went to the pharmacy to buy injections for my baby but i couldn't find any so now that i am unemployed i came here. forty five volunteer doctors a week battle with as many as two thousand monthly visits in this crowded space they rely on donations of medicine donations that are running from people who are a very. very serious health problem such as they did this open door logical problems they have to get their medicine. every month every day it's very serious for them not have their meds and if they do not they could die greeks aren't surprised at any of this anymore they've seen crisis and austerity reach
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throughout their society this new think and makes things even here even more difficult than to put. in even more strain on me known because to me strain on greece's economy on greek workers and now on greeks help worsening scars of a crisis that seems to cut ever deeper thomason party. in other news making headlines now a prominent female politician from a previous star imran khan's movement for justice has been shot dead in pakistani city of karachi so our show he was assassinated of a controversial national review on the recent election. polls are among the bloodiest in the country's history one hundred politicians. in ukraine protesters clashed with police when thousands rallied in the capital to demand the release of prime minister newton ashamed. at least. during the standoff and brought these commissioners who were sentenced to prison for abuse of power in
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twenty seven in the case of a controversial gas contracts supporters insist is politically motivated. the right wing nationalist rally met with the police crackdown in poland city of krakow police and demonstrators clashed in the city center as security forces attempted to keep pace with me on your gay pride parade country's national sort of protesting against legislation or same sex marriage. the u.k. government is planning to move benefit claims to the web most of those needing welfare payments don't think that's such a good idea studies show three quarters of the claimants will struggle to get online and in many rural areas of the country broadband internet is slow or nonexistent surf earth based community in the north of england to find out how they are getting connected. the rolling hills and dales of the daily english countryside
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but what lancashire in the north of england has in secluded d.c. it lacks in malls and in a city despite major provided bt reporting of beeston profits local communities like these haven't felt the benefits and a path to dig deep into their own pockets and land to try to get connected. we have on camera a bt executive privilege power which is one of the highlights hard poised over in the distance to survey english area and say just look at the small city of population it is just no economically viable for them to come out. the way to connect up the three or. four as they say are concerned the. homes in the countryside will have to carry on with the old copper was through the telephone because you know economically viable or no i cannot believe audible you know i think we were only trade coffee in case. the project called
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broadband for the rural north all the shoot might be in the early stages still but it could be set to make this quiet local setting a global internet hotspots they have a fading into the ground the fiber optic cable that provided me and that connection now all of it has taken years and passable planning and as you can see behind me a lot of hard work from the wall and to vote for the best part about it is that once it's all up and running this area is going to how much faster internet connection than the u.k. average the brand to do it yourselves zeal might need to be rolled out elsewhere despite promises to bring super fast broadband to rural areas there are still more than five million people across the way without access to basic broadband in the long run. hopefully going to completely revolution revolutionize the communities.
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in the meantime everyone is working very hard to get it going but we are crunching up with lack of money really to be able to buy the materials for people to put things in it's unlikely bt will be daunted by this local competition yet but the project is attracting high level attention. the government he's actually now seriously looking at can this be an example as i said for other areas and hopefully now they've actually seen a lot not the funding on the ground regime to allow smaller groups like this to access the major problems that we're rolling out across the country back in the field and it's all hands on deck as volunteers look to get the community here connected. and we're going to hopefully future for those. so that we won't need to come back and do it again and do it once things are probably right
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thank you very much for that very close indeed and then she just going to go around and talk to one of the other people volunteering that you've been involved in this quite heavily as well what else does it mean because obviously it's providing the internet connection and that is also a way of bringing the community together isn't it really is yes i want to me now as you can see here are people who've never met future of the before farm and so working in so called for you. are there for her are a lancashire in the north of england or coming out party meets a man from bavaria who believes the german province should go to alone thirty.
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you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture. they're ready to come here to work and not get paid for it. people from all over the world are eager to help the taj what does it take to become a volunteer at russia's premium museum why do the son of louvers director come here . from one of the camps do. behind the scenes of the hermitage.
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let's treat. her. with. a. good. run of a little. today
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we're talking about the future of germany's i'm joined by the author and campaign at full bavarian independence wilford shiloh thank you very much for talking to us. why should the variac go it alone but this one senate history because bavaria is a free state by virtue of its history economic power population size and constitutional setup ever since the federal republic of germany was established in one nine hundred forty nine a very it has lost considerably in independence and authority and competencies just as the european union was assuming more and more powers i would like to change that study what would be the benefits of an independent with area. soil and also spoke
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with a population of twelve and a half million varia is jim. the second most populated state after north rhine-westphalia it also has the strongest economy and boasts outstanding progress in science and technology so why can't a state like that take charge of its own future if we look at the european union twenty out of its twenty seven member states are in faery it's above area in terms of population economic power and efficiency why can't we have more control of our political and economic standing in europe. how do you see bavaria going about trying to achieve independence. there's a brilliant democratic solution for that the people should decide the bavarian constitution attributes and especially high status to any referendum and there have been referendums in bavaria in history certainly i would never agree to an independent variable that would not be conscious about its responsibilities as part
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of germany and as part of europe but the various should have more say as regards its political and economic status this is all the more important since brussels as well as berlin have been continuously taking on new competency as in the past decades case in point as far as finance is concerned is the german inheritance tax which is levied in all of the states by the federal government even on fiscal matters it isn't the states who get to make decisions but the federal policy makers in berlin this cannot last forever have you looked at independence campaigns in other parts of the world i'm thinking particularly scottish independence or catalonian independence and try to learn something from what they are achieving then. what we can learn from history is that political maps are not set in stone nations can have their boundaries altered through a peaceful process based on the will of the people that take the form czechoslovakia which was dissolved peacefully forming two independent states the
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czech republic and the republic slovak. well that's why there are many more examples that scotland will be holding an independence referendum in twenty fourteen and a similar initiative is currently being debated in catalonia there are movements with a similar agenda in many european countries brussels which i'm especially critical of the usurping competencies within the e.u. is itself the capital of a nation whose actual existence this question about as belgium appears to be divided more than it is united would an independent bavaria remain within the e.u. would it keep the single currency suppressed and because it couldn't but definitely and we could have our own representation in brussels as an independent state same as the scottish who also wish to remain in the european union in case they seen historically the very has always been an integral part of europe and it was becoming ever deeper involved with the rest of you.

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